Δ Fighting Corruption In Nigeria, Could That Be The Way Forward To Stability And A Better Economy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by andyslim, Aug 19, 2016.

  1. andyslim

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    Looking at the blames being put on president Buhari here and there, would you conclude that this tenure of 4 years term will be a failure. Is he the main cause of the down time our economy is facing right now?

    Will fighting corruption solve any issue in Nigeria?
     
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  2. mrdeekseen

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    I've always said this:

    Corruption is not an entity someone 'fights', you're setting yourself up for failure.

    Corruption is systematic. The corrupt people either have systems in place they set up for fraudulent purposes, or have seen loopholes in the economic system they are manipulating for their own benefits.

    A successful fight against corruption would therefore mean that;

    The current system is rescanned for loopholes, and such loopholes tackled.
    Or systems to counter the prevailing ones promoting corruption be set up and made law. This will take time, but will start yielding faster.

    Buhari will definitely slow down the country's economy more if he goes on with the war the way he has been doing. These corrupt men are stronger.
     
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  3. jaywon

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    When you want 'government' to set up a body, probably NGO to look into the root of 'corruption' in a country like Nigeria, it is like setting up a lantern to brighten it's base.

    The Buhari issue as regards fighting of corruption is never a big deal. The point is, if Buhari don't do it now, it means we want him to go in the way of his fathers who come to only give us 'surface dressing' to our wounds.
     
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  4. mrdeekseen

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    I never asked for bodies to be set up. You still don't understand that corruption is systematic. I asked for systems to be set up... Maybe in the form of policies, for a start.
     
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  5. lemonade

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    @mrdeekseen I definitely don't agree with you on that position:
    I understand what you mean clearly, but I want to chip in that our country has a very vast and robust policy. The problem is, execution. Yes, I would have agreed if you've opined that we have counter-policies in place which provides the right fodder for our corrupt public officials to exploit. I'll rather, in that respect advise we look into our laws and streamline them. And those that are obsolete should be updated. Aside that, the will to enforce the law is what is lacking in this country.
     
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    @jaywon Might be difficult to understand what you mean by 'Buhari being the main cause of the down time(sic) of this economy'. But one thing I understand is that, Buhari is here now, give him time. You don't expect him to be a Moses with a Divine Rod...give him time. Some have been there for 16years and did barely nothing. Buhari has just been in the saddle for a year+ . You don't assess a child still writing an exam...you let him submit, then you mark before making assessments. And please, I don't insinuate you gag yourself and don't speak up and express your opinion. What I'm saying is, let's be pragmatic and lend our hands as patriotic citizens.
     
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    I think I quite agree with you. That was why I used "maybe". But still, the current policies, systems or machineries promoting corruption should be checkmated.

    My main point still remains,

    Corruption fighting shouldn't be about fighting people directly. It should, instead, be about fighting systems, policies and machineries promoting corruption.
     
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  8. tinu

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    Fighting corruption will only aggravate issue. It will just make our journey of 40days become journey of 40years. Or maybe unaccomplished if too tackled. Corruption is not the major fight to focus on, but we also can't forget the fact that there's need to sart working on getting rid of it now just slowly and steadily till it gotten rid of
     
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  9. jaywon

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    @tinu correct. Come chop knuckle. :)
     
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  10. tinu

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    Thanks @jaywon. I'm chopping it already
     
  11. andyslim

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    Lovely and interesting opinions. You guys are really disecting it
     
  12. tinu

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    As it is now a matter of fact proven with time, we have seen that this administration has focused majorly on fighting corruption since its assumption of office.

    But here we are today. Nothing has really 'changed'. No good has come the way of this country.

    Maybe a 'change' of focus and a new way of tackling issues destroying the growth and development of the nation will be a second option for now
     
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  14. ganiyat

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    For me, i see fighting corruption to have been one of the ways forward. But presently, the system is now corrupt itself. Bad governance with evil supporters. Fighting corruption could have also saved Nigeria though, but it was taken as a level 1 priority. That was a bad move
     
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  15. HoneyBlinkz1

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    Rightly said.. He had better face other things rather than fight something that he himself is clearly involved in..
     
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  16. HoneyBlinkz1

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    You cant use corruption to fight corruption... Rather let him leave it and face better things. How can you get into an office through corrupt means and you expect to fight the corruption that put you in power.. That is fighing a lost battle.. What nigeria needs is a revolution not someone to be blaming others for their stupidity and failure..
     
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    TE="andyslim, post: 10976, member: 507"]Looking at the blames being put on president Buhari here and there, would you conclude that this tenure of 4 years term will be a failure. Is he the main cause of the down time our economy is facing right now?

    Will fighting corruption solve any issue in Nigeria?[/QUOTE]
    Buha

    Buhari is a waste of vote to those who voted him.
    He has hyped network tarrifs and worsen every thing.
     
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    No need and time fighting corruption, just go ahead and set new standards, if anybody defaults, there and then, you can go after the person and not haunt past administrations.
     
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  19. HoneyBlinkz1

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    true talk bro
     
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  20. Kemro

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    I wont completely put the problems of our economy on president Buhari. The loopholes of our econonomy had began to show when Jonathan was still in power. President Buhari shouldn't say he didn't watch the economy of this country closely before contesting the general elections. He made mistakes in his late appointment of ministers. For six months the ministries was kept in the hands of permanent secretaries and directors in the civil service. This presence of ministers in the beginning of Buhari's administration would have reduced the intensity of this recession. The fight against corruption should not delay the primary aim of Buhari's being there as president.
     
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  21. mrdeekseen

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    The enthusiasm and resources this government has put into fighting corruption could have gone a long way in ensuring our economy was much more stable.
     
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    When you said: "...something he himself is CLEARLY involved in..." You might want to expanciate further sir.
     
  23. Gray5

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    Well, that's your opinion and you have a right to it but I feel that's very wrong. Anti corruption fight has to start from somewhere and with someone and its a good decision the Buhari administration is taking a bood step in that direction. I personally don't believe our legal system is totally bereft of laws and legislation to curb this culture of looting, but what is lacking is a virile, decisive government to take the bull by the horn just as someone is doing now. From here it becomes a precedent for every other incoming admin to probe the activities of the last admin, if not all the admins that have ever come to power.
     
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  24. Gray5

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    I quite agree with you that Buhari erred in appointing ministers to his cabineton time; constitutionally, that was one big error. Order than that, I don't see any mistakes in that decision. As a matter ofd fact, ministers are go-between, between the president and the ministries, they are more ceremonious in function than active. The main bulk of the ministry workload, runnings, inputs etc are carried out by these PS(es) and Directors. Ministers are appointees, they play politics with state policies. Thats a fact! So if Buhari had had them on board for 6months and he was able to leverage on the inherent advantages, there may not have been any noticeable difference. Mind you, the econony downturn didnt become any excerbated due to that singular lapse. No. Point is, even if ministers were appointed from get-go, the economy was already in shambles even before Jonathan left office. It wouod still take fighting tooth and nail to avoid the dangerous precipice the economy is already falling into.

    So I'll just say, there's no helping the situation, we would still have landed here; ministers or not.
     
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  25. Eyor1

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    Hmm, let me come back into the matter.
    Fighting corruption is a good thing and I noted that but you must know that Buhari is fighting corruption on a one sided and biased manner.... Also you will note and agree with me that his corruption fight is slowing development or even making him not development conscious because to the best of my knowledge, since his assumption to office, there has been no meaningful development other than his corruption fighting.
     
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  26. Busola

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    Let's hope the fighting of corruption will finally give a good result
     
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